who killed strawberry aka nicole?

even if the mayor did not kill nicole why is the community still allowing him to run their city?

why does everyone in detroit seem to have a problem? whether it be financial, crimrs, death, not satisfied with their lives, etc. Everyone has some kind of issue but they are still loyal to Detroit

Detroit

Questions:

1. Where is the government? Why aren’t they taking action to fix Detroit?
2. If the government can’t help, why don’t the citizens of Detroit take initiative? Rather, they make the city worse for themselves.
3. What can we, as a nation, do to improve Detroit’s living conditions? If neither the government nor the citizens doesn’t take initiative, who will?

I anticipate more chaos and government incompetence in the book. Also, I would like to see more of the reasons why Charlie went back to Detroit. Is he trying to solve the problem of the city? Or at least suggest what we could do? There are times where Charlie suggests that having a dream as a Detroiter is useless, but hey it’s free to dream. I look forward on connecting more of these instances to the class’ theme: American Dream.

Detroit: 3 questions.

1. Why are people setting houses on fire?  Is it only for pure entertainment?
2. Is Charlie going to share what he's learned about the firemen with the mayor? In order to provide them with better materials?
3. Are people intentionally trying to kill their own neighborhoods? Do they think it will send some kind of message to the mayor on what he should do?

Preview: I think it's gonna be how Detroit is slowly dying or Is basically dead. Maybe it'll explain further on how it got that way?

I think it intertwines with the American dream and how is it possible? In a place that it's extremely hard to strive.

Quote: “It was not a ghetto by any means.” (pg. 34) Re: “Joy Road” the street that the author grew up on, with 3 brothers and a sister. Divided to working class suburbs.

Theme: Descriptions of people in the book up to this point seem to be either racial queues or assumptions that the individual is caucasian.  

Choice and or the ability to have a choice

Author’s tone on race:

Second set of 3 questions

1) Perpetual flames are most commonly associated with hell. Yet, LeDuff continuously asserts that the people of detriot are good willed---but must suffer through hell. What does LeDuff's hell filled with heavenly people, say about Detriot, the world and the effects of environment on the way a society behave?
2) Keeping with the theme of fire. LeDuff draws irony by claiming Detriot is in perpetual flames, but also notes that the politicians call the firemen lazy. In this sense, the politicians are the real lazy firemen. LeDuff's half-call to action--half criticism, draws a sense of irony. Who is the real firemen for the detriot, a city set to flames a multitude of times?
3) Joy Road was not so joyous. Was does the road's nomenclature reveal about the previous state of Detroit( It was named after an individual, but it still remains ironic)?

Three questions for the book

1.What kinds of message the author want to express to readers, and how he arranges the book to achieve it.

2.What's feeling when the author write down these articles.

3.How this book link to our main topic -- the American Dream

3 Questions

1. How did Detroit go from being the most thriving city, to the worst city in America in a matter of decades?
2. Is the government even trying to rebuild Detroit?
3. When did Detroit start to crumble?

Three Questions

1. Why some people move back to Detroit and what they seek in the destroyed city?
2. Why some people still remain in the city?  Are they trapped? or People still?
3. How do the Michigan State or Detroit city strive to rebound the city?

Detroit was a landmark of America's Prosperity once. But it has been decaying, dying. Chalie was one of the people who left the city and now he came back to try to make changes  to rebound. Is Detroit Dream is possible?..

Detroit: three questions

1- why did author say Florida was crying?
2- Author said :" Go ahead and laugh at Detroit. Because you are laughing at yourself." Why does that mean?
3- what does the last paragraph imply in prologue?

    Based on what I have read so far, I think this book is about hopelessness and darkness, but it's actually full with honesty, warning and courage. The author admitted Detroit is a ghost of city, but on the other hand, he is giving a warning to us that if we don't face and fix the problems, all America's cities will be collapsed like Detroit eventually. Also it is exactly related to the decay of the American dream. We should stop destroy our cities, stop breaking our American dream.

3 Questions

1. Why did Charlie move back to Detroit?
2. How does he compare Detroit to the American Dream?
3. Why would he want to raise his daughter in Detroit rather than in Los Angeles?

three questions

1. were there some factors that cause the author's neighbors' fathers to kill themselves in dearborn?

2. in the book, is there a chapter about detroit's prosperous period of time?

3. the author said the things in 1970 and early 80's had changed, is he hint that the american dream has changed?

3 Questions about "Detroit"

1)- Why did things start to change in the 1970s and early 80's, which made people lives becoming harder, and more students abandoned schools?

2)- What made some people become arsonist ?

3)-  Which department would get budget cut following the fire-companies ?

              All the stories that we read until now are dark and sad ones, and I can predicts the following stories won't be happy at all. However, I think that the author wants to use some heart-rending tales to give readers a message that there are still some good Detroit people who won't get contagious attitudes, and these people believe that one day Detroit will recover its vanguard.

3 questions

1. why Detroit fall? Is it only about the car industry?
2. Depend on Detroit, is American dream still possible?
3. how to make Detroit become a rich city again?

3 Questions regarding Detroit

1) If he [Charlie] knows how bad of a state Detroit is in, what would make the Motor City more appealing than, for instance, LA which hasn't reached that point yet?

2) If the book is an American Autopsy, what could the author possibly find in Detroit that would direct us back to the American Dream? What exactly does the American Dream look like to the author?

3) Will Charlie discuss if he will use what he finds throughout the city to help raise his daughter with how society is going or against it?

3 Questions

So the 3 questions i have are:
1 - Why would he want to raise his daughter in Detroit knowing what the city did to him, his family, and his friends?  Even with great family values, trouble and despair ended up finding his siblings and friends, what makes him think that his daughter will be able to avoid that?
2 - This is a dark book, not very optimistic about whats happening or a better future for the city, so what is the endgame of this book? Hope?
3 - What is Charlie's definition of the American Dream?

This is no fairytale, we know Detroit is still in bad shape and it doesnt look like they are heading towards a happy ending.  My prediction for the rest of the book is that the author will slowly try to open you up to the idea that Detroit's history, culture, and people will keep it alive despite the horrible conditions. Maybe hope will keep it alive long enough for something good to come around and revive the city.

Three questions on Detroit: An Anerican autopsy

1. What is extended sense of  Charlie was robberied at a gas station at noon in Detroit??

2. Why did Charlie move back to Detroit as a reporter?

3. How does this book connect to the American Dream?

Three question about the book

1. Why did the author Charlie LeDuff give up his life in Los Angeles and move back to Detroit, a city in ruin?
2. What happened in Detroit? How did it look like before, and what changed it?
3. What is author's purpose of writing this book?

Late: compare and contrast

In Unit 3, I found that there are two articles that form a sharp contrast. In the article "I Don't want my children to go to College", Buzzfeed president Jon Steinberg states that he doesn't want his children go to college because college degree means a lot of debt and not necessarily a skill set.
 On the other hand, the article "Why does college still matter" is the response and rebuttal to Mr Steinberg's point.Author Meliss Harris-Perry uses fives reason to explain why college still matters today. In fact,higher education is the key to achieving the American Dream. Recently, since job requirements have become higher, competition for jobs among younger people has become fierce; this means that we need more education to find a better job.

Three Questions

1) Will he find an answer or a way to help Detroit?

2) Can Detroit ever be what it once was?

3) Does he ever shoot someone? *I thought of this when I read the part when he pointed a gun at the man trying to rob him.

Three Questions on Detroit : An American Autopsy

1. Was it the best choice for his daughter's livelihood to move from Los Angeles to the ruins of Detroit?

2. What ending should we expect from this book if we already know that Detroit still remains in ruins?

3. Will Charlie LeDuff turn into an amateur detective and solve crimes to help restore order in his hometown of Detroit?

LATE : Compare And Contrast

For my Compare or Contrast paper, I picked "Why Go to College at All?" and "I Don't Want My Children to go to College". I choose these two articles for my discussion because I feel that they have a lot in common as well as a lot that they don't have in common. They both talk about how young people could hack their lives and discover alternate routes to success in life. In the type of society we live in now, college is not the only pathway to success. Many more opportunities are available out there such as the global web. Much communication can be made online through social networks such as Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram, etc. However, in the article "I Don't Want My Children to go to College" they made one point where yes, outside life learning is cool and all but nothing really compares to the many benefits that one could achieve in college.     

1) It's clear this is in no way a laudatory of Detriot, but at the same time LeDuff praises Detriot by claiming its people are strong, cultured citizens of America who represent America. How is his anatomization of the people, both biologically (and symbolically) in the case of the crime scene, both a generalization of America and a warning to Americans?
2) Does the author depict Detriot as the "Patient Zero" of the American Economic down turn?
3) What does the case of Strawberry represent for the people of Detriot? For LeDuff? For LeDuff in regards to his sister?

Detroit 3 questions

1) Did Charlie go to his sister's funeral at the beginning of the story? His sister was a prostitute, right?
2) Did Charlie think about the consequences of raising his daughter in Detroit? He sure did not want her to become a materialistic superficial girl in LA. Based on the environment described by the author the girl could turn out as her aunt or fallow a wrong path. Were there good school? Did he considered that?
3) Who killed Strawberry?

Nicole Mercado

Detroit- Three questions

1. What kinds of difficulties would Charlie meet when he moved back to Detroit?
2. Why has the mess of Detroit been lasting for so many years without any improvement?
3. What has the American government done to make this city grow back? 

3 Exploring Questions about Detroit

1)- Do people feel insecure when living in Detroit?
2)- Does the downturn of Detroit influence people's nature?
3)-Is Detroit really a terrible city as people thought, or does it reflect common phenomena like other cities in the United States?

3 Questions from Detroit

1. Is this book from author's autobiography?

2. After I finished Page 27, I just want to know, who was Nicole's killer?

3.Why the author need to go back to Detroit to achieve the American Dream?

questions for detroit

1. is charlie leduff comparing the economic situation before and after he left detroit?

2. why charlie leduff isolated himself and his baby in hollywood bungalow?

3. at first the mayor was getting close to an sex party with a stripper, why the mayor ordered the killing of the stripper later?

Detroit

Is all the events in the book real?
Is it true that there are crops lying everywhere in Detroit?
Why hasn't anyone do anything about it if it is that horrible in Detroit?

DETROIT - 3 Questions

1. Will the entire book be based upon his first-hand experiences? Or will there be chapters that entirely focus on an interviewee?

2. Did Charlie's wife have a job at this time? I wouldn't imagine that being a journalist for the Detroit News would earn one enough to support a child.

3. Who was Nicole's killer? On page 27, Charlie says to Carlisle: "I'll never forget his [Nicole's killer] name either. He's the guy who trained me." What does he mean, "trained"? In what field? I'm sure he'll get more into it later in the book.

Detroit questions

Is the book an autobiography?

Is Charlie Leduff describing Detroit from now or right after the collapse?

What was Charlie's main intention on writing this book?

Questions for the reading

1. Why hasn't the government tried anything to help the city of Detroit when it is obviously in state of turmoil?

2. Will Charlie LeDuff address the racism that is occurring at the end of the second chapter and is racism really bad in Detroit?

3. Will LeDuff be able to salvage (at least to some degree) his dying city through his reporting?


From what I have read so far, Detroit is very dark and depressing place to be. I anticipate that LeDuff will inform his audience on how things came to be this way and if there way to restore the dreadful city. He writes in his prologue that what's happening in Detroit is spreading, and I feel that LeDuff will explain to us why that is as well and how we can fight it.

After watching the Michael Moore film: Capitalism, A Love Story in class, I feel I was better prepared for the context of this book than if I hadn't seen the movie. Both discussed the downfall of Detroit and showed how the idea of the American Dream is dwindling.

Questions from Detroit

1.  What is the background story to Charlie's sister's death?
2.  Charlie has an apathetic tone, however, he seems to really be an activist.  What is his desired result from waking America up?
3.  We know so much about what Charlie doesn't want to be, so what does he want to be?  A good father?  A successful career man?  A spokesperson?  An ambassador for justice?

Questions about Detroit

1. Why did public ascribe the murder of "strawberry" to the mayor Kilpatrick in the first place?

2. Does the case of "strawberry" imply something further? or just one out of too many ordinary cases in Detroit?

3. Why this section titled "This Ain't Hollywood?

Detroit Reading

1. Was Charlie putting himself in serious danger by writing about the mayor Kilpatrick issue?
2. How does working often affect him marriage with his Wife?
3. Why did he really want to work for a Detroit Newspaper agency that was broke?

Identify 2 main arguments from the Reading

1)- Two main arguments in the article, "Why Does College Still Matter" by Melissa Harris-Perry are: (a)- higher education provide  a job opportunity, (b)- higher education is important for society.  I think the arguments are convincing because she has data to support.

2)-Two main arguments in the article, "I Don't Want My Children to Go to College"  by Stacia L. Brown are : Traditional College is still important because it provides job opportunity, and it give students who are left behind a change to obtain higher education. Her arguments are convincing because she gives detail explanation, and has data to support her points.

Compare & Contrast

After reading the two articles: "why does College Still Matter?" by Melissa Harris-Perry, and "I Don't Want My Children to Go to College" by Stacia L. Brown, I find out one similarity is the essential of going to college to get higher education. However, there are some differentials between the two readings. The first article focuses on the outcome of graduating from college such as students are more easily to find jobs, more likely to participating in voting, and realizing their commitment to society. On the other hand, the second essay mentions the benefits students get from attending tradition college, such as skills for job opportunity, a chance to get higher education, and avoiding discrimination.

c&c (now that I have blog access!)

“The American Dream: A Biography” focuses heavily on the history of the concept and it’s scarcity today.  The idea was to emphasize freedom, a promise for tomorrow, and ultimately a sense of security.  Today, we suffer from polarized classes that demonstrate a lack of equality and proves that “The American Dream” most certainly does not apply to all Americans. The article examines the positioning of power and responsibility and rests on the value that Americans themselves have always had the power to achieve the dream, regardless.  We move to the next article which points out that the quality of the “Dream” was the sense of hope and trust.

In “Rethinking the American Dream”, we are taken on a journey of watching the evolution of “The American Dream".  That, in a different economic atmosphere, the dream was defined as having opportunity to create wealth and live a rich life-which, today, looks very different and means a lot more gain than it did decades ago.  It’s pointed out that our hunger for more grew to overshadow our sense of what we have, which may not be a problem of what we’re no longer able to do but how we have calibrated our perception of what we have and what we can achieve.

It seems that we are losing momentum with the, “You can be whatever you want!” to a more realistic, “I’m gonna be whatever I’m gonna be”.  The overinflated idea of the American Dream has seemed to pop-I feel that those of us in this proposed “Emerging Adulthood” group are perhaps not waiting for a Cinderella carriage to carry us to our castle of dreams, we are building our own idea of what it means to be happy and have a future.  I think that since we’re all a little new at writing our own story from scratch that maybe it looks a little sloppy, but at least we’re not crying about not having perfection handed to us.  There seems to be a strong theme of self-responsibility that is being upstaged by the prominent hyper-independence that we display and is perhaps quite threatening as it says, ‘I don’t need you’.

Ashley Wilhelm

Why we go to college?

Going to college is becoming a more arguable subject although access to higher education is far easier today. 

According to "Why go to college at all",  Dale J.Stephens, the founder of Uncollege says college education doesn't guarantee your success.  He argues college education limits our potential possibilities we can develop by learning outside of school but we are just confined to institutional structures. Stephens thinks students learn useless skills divorced from reality inside of the "homogenous bubble". Therefore, he argues self-directed education is the ideal form of education rather than waisting time and money on college education. 

However Melissa Harris-Perry refutes his idea in the article "why does college still matter". Melissa says college still plays a significant role of providing economic mobility, growing adaptability, provoking creative mindset. Going to college is beneficial for individuals and societies.   

Two articles have opposite perspectives on college education, but they both acknowledge the power of education in despite of its various forms

Compare & Contrast

In the first article it speaks about why our college students are not becoming adults. Some excuses were that they were not finishing school. However the article is in contrast because it is saying why do even go to college nowadays-that college is a waste of time and money and if you want to be successful ou should just go to an internship. In my opinion school is not the answer or the key to be successful in life it is a possibility or a guide in your own success. for example, if you do not know what you want to do as a career why not go to college and take some general courses just to see what interest you. why no? its not a waste if you do not put your time and effort in it. But if your going to be sitting in the back of the class and barely make it to class then your not just wasting your time but your taking a seat that maybe a dedicated student needed.
I think school is a tool in which helps us be successful in life, no you do not need to be buried in student debt trying to get a PhD but at least give you a sense of direction in your career. what was said once before the mind is a terrible thing to waste.

college yes or no?


Both articles discuss why school is necessary and why not but they do bother agree that it is not required. Teens/adults go to school and years later they are unhappy and getting payed salaries that those without an education who worked themselves from the bottom to the top are almost equal. Plus they start to want more. One of the articles discusses how parents don't want their children going to school because it puts them in debt and causes them great stress but the other article argues that without an education you will not have a high paying job and nothing is guarenteed. They both go back and forth but in the end school is extremely beneficial if you are going into a medical or teaching field but for those going into careers where they can learn hands on their best option is to work their way up the chain. Social skills can develop anywhere and school is not the best place to learn those skills.

The compare of attending college

    Should we go to college or not? This argument is becoming bigger and bigger recently. In article “I Don’t Want My Children to Go to College” and “Why Go to College at All?”, they both argue whether college is worth it. These two articles use a lot of researches and statements to support their opinions. 

    Even they both think that attending college is not necessary, but they do have some difference in between. In "Why Go to College at All?”, the author points out that college is not worth at all. He thinks that college is the last place to go if you don't have any choice because the learning is not happened in college. Also he said that college is just a place to learn how to follow a direction and rule. 

    But in article  “I Don’t Want My Children to Go to College”, author thinks that college is not a place to just learn something, also it has lots of thing to do with. He points out that college is not necessary due to some young graduates didn't learn any useful skill on campus. Due to online course is valuable and convenient for many people, so he suggests that people should consider deeply to make sure what they want and need. Even author thinks attending college is not necessary but he admits that there is no substitute for traditional college like human interaction. That's why Buzzfeed president Jon Steinberg thinks that he still would let his children go to college if they extremely want to be scholar.

College education: yes or no?

       I read the articles "why does college still matter?" and "Why Go to College at all?.
Both articles are arguing about the necessity for going to college. From the title we can tell the "why does college still matter?" support the idea that graduation from college has lots of benefits.And the other article opposed against this idea.
      In " Why does college still matter?" Melissa responded to a person's words about not sending his children to go to college and preferring do an internship. She listed five aspects to explain the benefits of college education, including financial sense, democracy, society, innovation and mind.
      " Why go to College at all?" is an article which summarized the interview of  Dale J. Stephens, the founder of UnCollege, and lists Stephens' arguments towards the five reasons about college education. Stephen criticized the education system for being "efficient but not effective." He pointed out college sometimes limit the student's social life only in the campus. He thought self-discovery can be better achieved out of school. He also point out: it is not the college that creates the student's success; It is because the smart and motivated people tend to go to college.

Education Being Redefined. Compare and Contrast.

Education in the traditional sense is being questioned in the context of achieving the American Dream. Becoming self-reliant and empowered decision-makers are qualities that are being valued over the traditional learning in classrooms. 

The rising costs of education and mortgages are leading young people to question the pursuit of happiness, when there is such an accumulation of debt, and not a happiness payoff.  Dale J. Stephens, 20 years old and the Founder of UnCollege in the article, "Why Go to College at All?" says that many young people are questioning the investment of a college education and would be better served to determine an alternative way to use their time and resources.   Rather than investing in a structure that only teaches one to “follow directions, meet deadlines and memorize facts,” he proposes a self-directed study guided by mentors in internships, or creating "project-based learning", or creating a start-up company that offer huge lessons in self-reliance and accountability.

The achievement of wealth, status and power through a college education is not a guarantee of one’s future career or life happiness; in fact, it has increased the debt quotient to encourage consumption.  With the ever-increasing debt of a college education, mortgages and keeping up the appearance of wealth and status, young people, according to Stephens, "will have a harder time to disengage from a system" that is not preparing them for self-reliance, empowerment and happiness.    Could the   traditional system be festered with the accumulation of debt, disappointment and lost resources, rather than prosperity?

But in "I Don't Want My Children to go to College," educator, Stacia Brown still experiences the traditional classroom as an opportunity for valuable “life-long” learning.  The value of “human interaction” and the encouragement that comes from free-form discussions goes beyond an on-line tutorial, especially for disadvantaged students. There is a high value where students from different social and economical groups meet together as a way to openly discuss racial and controversial subjects, and acquire insights.  Brown would assert that this experience is not just about acquiring soft skills for the marketplace but are the “true cornerstones of lifelong learning.” 

Buzzfeed’s president Jon Steinberg disagrees.  Traditional college does not prepare the college graduate as they “ come in with no skills that are usable to us, with the exception of programmers” and sees a traditional college degree as “a lot of debt” and prefers his children to work as an intern, rather than sit in a traditional classroom to learn about themselves and actually be mentored and collaborate in an internship.   Google Executive Chairman Eric Schmidt says that it is more than skills, college is a “rite of passage to help students learn how to live away from home.” However Steinberg and Stephens assert that learning to make independent decisions in an unstructured environment through collaboration and mentorship truly prepares young people to know their strengths and become self-reliant, not by sitting in the classroom.

College Compare and contrast

In this analysis the articles “Why go to college at all?” and “I don’t want my children to do to college” will be compared and contrasted. In the first article Dale J. Stephens, the interviewee, states that socializing and developing a network of friends and contacts is limited in the college environment. He establishes that the students are there for the same reason, to study.  Stacia L. Brown on the second article establishes that college is much more than a place to study ,“It means whether they realize it or not, that their concept of college is driven by human interaction.” She also says that the internet access in the classroom is a secondary resource for the personal interactions are more valuable for the students. On the contrary, Mr. Stephens says that “As for values of making connections in college to nurture a professional network, people are increasingly using social media resources like LinkedIn, Twitter and Facebook to make connections.”

As for Browns article, she quotes Mark Steinberg, the owner of facebook , to point out that in his believes college graduates develop no essential skills for the work force. Mr. Stephens in the other article agrees with these statements and adds, “You learn how to follow directions, meet deadlines and memorize. When you go out into the real world, there is no structure like that. A job doesn’t give you a syllabus.” With these ideas presented both articles agree that college is not preparing successfully students for the real job world. Both also believe that internships are the best ways to learn about the workforce environment. You learn while you are at it.

Brown quotes Schmidt by saying that he believes college is more about learning to become independent rather than learning education. This is an expansion of the real learning opportunities college provides. As for Mr. Stephens, he believes not going to college allowed him to explore the world around him and travel to immerse himself in other cultures. This leaded him to self discovery rather than what people think college is for.

Further Education

Both of the writers in theses articles argued their point of view, as well including factual statements and life examples, about college. Yet I cant hep but feel that college is still a goal that many should pursue. Yes loans and learning through repetition is a fact of college, but to have a high paying job it is almost necessary to have an degree behind your name.

Should we go to college?

There is much debate on whether young adults should be entering college or not. Because of financial reasons, such as the increase of student debt, many people are saying they'll pass. Dale Stephens author of the article "Why go to College at All?" states  "Young people might look at the time and money they would invest in a college education and determine a better way to use those resources."Students will have to spend years working off student loans rather than starting their life debt free, which seems counterproductive. He also describes that motivation is more important than going to college and that those who are motivated to work hard will do well in life despite the fact that they didn't receive a degree.

The article "I Dont Want My Children to go to College" by Stacia Brown writes of how minorities are often discouraged to pursue college at all. It is a harsh reality that many students will not see the inside of a classroom because no one believes they are capable of getting a college degree. Brown explains that when minorities go to school they can change the views of others, saying "their presence offers considerably privileged students a unique opportunity to learn and live alongside learners who are, in many ways, their opposite." It can eventually create an environment that allows extended education to be available to everyone. 

If college was more accessible I would say that going to college is a great thing because it does help students develop many skills that they can use in the workplace. Yet with all the disadvantages that goes with going to school it is understandable that it is not for everyone. I believe with Stephens that it depends on how determined the individual is to do well. Because it is determination and hard work that will make a person succeed, not just their educational background.

College

After talking about the college nowadays and days back I realized that the articles the relate the most are “Why Go to College at All?” and “I Don’t Want My Children to Go to College,” which are s very much alike and both talk about the same subject. Both writers talk about the reality of going to college and if it’s worth or not. Both articles explain the good and bad points of going to college and try to show why going to college isn’t the best choice to make. The writers used quotes from people in the same field and with respected profiles.

Why we need to go to College?

Why we need to go to College? Some people think we have to go because we can learn more skills from there. But some people do not agree people need to go to College because it is not necessary.

Some people might say that we need to learn how to use new technologies in College, but I do not think college is the only way for people to learn new things. People know how to acquire knowledge, when they were born, but why not a new technology? Skills, students are able to learn from the class win while working for them, so I do not think college is necessary for people to go.

I agree with Dale Stephens in some areas, sometimes, the College is not important because we need these skills we have in our real work will be used. For example, the college does not teach these skills, you need to learn these skills in your work life. With general education, you do not need to know all that stuff, when you will become a machinist example. You do not need to understand the history, science. That's why some people think go to College is not important.

However, some people think go to College can learn more. Institute will provide intensive training and other programs to understand and give experience to perform the job well. Most employers are looking for people with a College/University degree because employers are looking for people who can help their business and the ability to earn profits. If people have completed her degree, it means that he has these ability to work In the last, the Institute can help prepare students for jobs and skills related industries.

How we see college today

Lets face it, the world is changing, and it's changing quickly. Just having a degree is no longer your ticket to a career. Experience talks, and college grads are not gaining the necessary skills that employers are looking for. Buzzfeed president Jon Steinberg is quoted in the article "I Don't Want My Kids To Go To College" as saying “Recent college grads… come in with no skills that are usable to us, with the exception of programmers,”. He argues that a degree does not represent a skill or an asset, but instead it is proof of debt. Employers are all competing with one another to stay relevant in a constantly progressing market, and University's are just not producing what they need. In the article "Why Go To College At All?" Dale Stephens articulates this very well by saying “Taking a psychology course doesn’t mean you know what it’s like to work as a psychologist. Better to observe, shadow and perhaps intern with professionals".
Both articles represent a shared idea that colleges are not changing with the times. The old model that they are based on are doing their students a disservice and employers are turning applicants away because they just do not have what it takes to be successful in the new generation of industry. 

Is College Worth It?

“I Don’t Want My Children to Go to College” and “Why Go to College at All?” both argue whether or not college is worth attending. They both quote many statements from famous people to back up their points.

            However, they have different perspectives on this topic. “I Don’t Want My Children to Go to College” argues that although college seems unnecessary, for students from disadvantaged background, learning in person, alongside peers, remains essential. Stacia L. Brown put forth a counterargument first by quoting Steinberg, Buzzfeed president. He states he doesn’t want his children go to colleges unless they aspire to be scholars. But Brown uses her own teaching experience to suggest that for some students from different races or the poor, what they learn in college is true cornerstones of lifelong learning.

“Why Go to College at All?” claims that college is not worth it at all. It has five reasons to support its claim. It quotes from Mr. Stephens, the founder of UnCollege. He essentially shows five main arguments to claim that attending college is not a good path for success. He suggests students should make their own decisions and fulfill their life by what they want to do.

I believe that going to college getting a degree is very important. You get to meet new people who than can help gain connections with. I agree slightly with Melissa but not with all the 5 points she brought up. I highly agree with financial sense because yes having an education helps you get better jobs your not struggling to make ends meet. I don't agree with what she said about it being good for democracy. I don't believe in politics I think it's all crap. In the 20th century most jobs require a higher education therefore it is important to go to college. You gain many lifelong skills. Through my college experience I have gain skills . I didn't agree with Stephens saying you don't learn in college because u certainly have. I'm going to school to be a nurse the skills that I will need to know need to be taught at an institution. You just can't put a nurse into the field expecting her know the anatomy of a body that needs to be taught. Nonetheless Ido believe college is a require because you gain knowledge and an education that society thinks it's necessary.

Why go to College? It a life decision.

In the article "Why go to College?" Holly Epstein interviews a young man how believes college education does not prepare your for the real working force. He claims that education is traditionally standard. "You learn how to follow directions, meet deadlines, and memorize facts." This is completely true, but you have to do exactly the same in a job or otherwise you are out of the company you work for. He argues that the connections you make in college are limiting for you are interacting with a diverse group but they are connected by the fact that they are studying. In may opinion you can meet people outside the the college environment. How about a volunteer work in a health clinic downtown?  You will be meeting with patients, medical staff, clinic staff and none of them are probably in college at the moment, for that was a stage in their lives. Thirdly, he says that you can get the college experience and not finish your degree. i think that is a waste of time and money dropping out. He also points out that you don't need to go to college to discover who you are. That is the only thing that I agree with him. Lastly, he says that a college education does not guarantee success. This is true to some extent. What if you want to be a successful doctor? I would tell this boy, prove how you would get all the knowledge needed without the tools of education.

In the article "I don't want my kids going to college" by Stacia L. Brown, the argument about the ineffective to prepared skilled students is discussed by a parent. The article also points out how colleges are depriving students from receiving an education due to the rise of tuition.  In my opinion the parent who advocates not sending his kids to college probably had a bad experience while he attended. I completely get it, for I had the same experience during undergrad. However, coming to the US and experiencing another type of education made me believe in the importance of going to college itself. So not all experiences have to be the same. As a parent I would encourage them to continue college but I would make them realize that its their choice. Regardless of their decision they will have to face the world and become adults.

College is Still a Matter to Me

I agree with Melissa Harris Perry pointed out that many jobs opening now require higher education, and applicants are requested to have colleges degrees at least.  I remember one of my friends told me that a college degree now is just like a high school degree in the 1970s. It means we are required to get higher education. At college, people can acquire not only degree but also some certificates with help them to get jobs.  Moreover, getting into college to take some courses will help students minimize their high institution at university. In addition, college is really helpful for new immigrants like me who are adults hoping to get higher education but cannot get into high school. College is really a matter because new immigrants can learn skill, knowledge, which is necessary for future adaption in the United States.

The American Dream

The concept of the American Dream has changed over time. In the article "Rethinking the American Dream" by david Kamp,the author talks about how the American Dream has changed over time. This is totally understandable since we live in a new era where millennials have a different perspective of life and have adapted a new concept of the American Dream. The author talks about the fact that once the American dream was the pursue a good life style, liberty, and happiness. Now the author makes us think, is it possible to achieve the American Dream? One of his claims states that approximately 600,000 jobs were lost during the year of 2009. So the land of opportunities became the land of struggling for survival. He also mentions that the new American dream is being "interpreted to mean making it big or striking it rich". This means that people have become more ambitious of money, power, and success.

The article "Keeping the Dream Alive" by Jon Meacham correlates with the previous by giving opinions on weather this Dream is still possible. One of the author's claims establishes how today it is harder to move from social-economical status due to the consistent increase of healthcare, college, and housing. "There, brief, is the crisis of our time. The American Dream might be slipping away." There is a fine line between dream and reality, and the author wants us to be more realistic. Another claim he makes is that no matter how time passes society will keep moving forward. Now the real problem is facing the reality that this so called American Dream has been changing.

Uncollege

Growing up, it was always instilled in into my head that college was the road taken. Coming from an immigrant family, my sister and I were expected to attend college because our parents left Fiji for that reason. We had the opportunity to achieve higher education than the generation before us and our parents didn't want us to squander the opportunity they were never afforded. I agree with some of the points made by Stephens however, I do think college is still necessary for most people entering the job field. Stephens claims that college doesn't really "teach", because once you leave, the world isn't set up like a university, and he is right in that aspect. There are no syllabi when you walk into your job for the first time. Even though universities aren't necessarily set up to mimic a real world environment, the information learned there is still important. You cant learn to be a doctor by "forging your own path" or because a lawyer by sheer will power and a creative route. These types of jobs require specific knowledge that you can't just search tutorials for on Youtube. A lot of what makes our society work is because of schools. Throughout history it has been proven time and time again that formal institutions are necessary for a society to succeed. Although Stephens makes very valid points, he is only one person and even though there are probably more out there like him, I would say it's not safe to take his word for anything more than a grain of salt because the way our society runs proves him wrong. He says that students lack responsibility and are likely to not leave their comfort zone of friends to discover life. I think the exact opposite. Most students seeking a higher education aren't doing it for fun, they're doing it because they have a goal in life and college is the next step. Of course there are exceptions but those students don't have negative effects on the students who actually do know responsibility. I know plenty of people who would agree that college is where they really felt free. No longer tied to the friends they knew since childhood and free to make their own decisions at their own discretion without the backlash of a stern talking to from their parents if they stayed out late or missed class. They can reinvent themselves if they like and chances are, they do. Students take full responsibility for themselves and their actions. If they aren't responsible enough when they arrive, they will be by the time they leave and with a lot of experience in life. As wrong as I think Stephens is on a lot of what he talks about, he has a very optimistic and innovative way of thinking that colleges could definitely utilize to make college worth it even more. He speaks of group-based, real life projects. Simply put, classes that give you credit for actual work. My sisters art college offers such classes. Clients come in and for one class, they work on these project, in a real environment, for a real client, with real deadlines. If traditional colleges began to integrate this, it wouldn't give students a fake sense of reality like Stephen states. In conclusion, I think Stephens perhaps has a diluted sense of college probably due to a bad experience, or some other negative outcome and has therefore come to the conclusion that college isn't necessary for everyone just because it wasn't right for him. The truth is, college isn't right for everyone, we all know that, but you won't ever know that if you dont try. College has a lot to offer besides a degree. It offers experiences, a chance to make a life for your sense just a bit easier than maybe with a degree, and college allows you the freedom to be you while still under some sort of life safety net.

uncollege

Why go to college at all is a very interesting reading especially because, nowadays, people are giving up on college very frequent. Nowadays, all fields are in huge competition for qualified workers so that people are dedicating more time to qualify themselves appropriate. However, going to college and getting a degree is not enough in order to find a successful job or career in many circumstances. In addition, this is one of the reason people are following Dale J. Stephens’s path more and more. I don’t really think that not going to college is the solution, that college is holding the students’ life and opportunities back. On the contrary, college really helps the students to get ready to the competitive market out there so that when it comes to a real life situation they at least know how to begin solving the problem. However, I do agree the experiences gained in a part-time or full-time job are much more absorbed than in college and students should have mouths or year out of college to travel and experience different cultures and situations, which is the best way to open one’s mind and become much more critical. As a result, college shouldn’t be taken out from one’s path but taken in a different way, and maybe, colleges should work in different ways or focus in different aspects.

Uncollege is not the answer

I disagree with Dale Stephens, because I think college is completely necessary.  He believes that everything done in college is a waste of time, yet he wants people to come and learn from him.  Almost every single job worth something requires a degree of some sort, or specialized training that you get from school.  Of course there are the talented few who do well without college and the even fewer who make it big, but not everyone can have a startup company, or think or a great idea and become an entrepreneur.  Doctors will always have to work through their residency, there is no such thing as an attorney who didnt take the bar, and you will never find an accountant who hasnt worked their ass off in school to pass their CPA test.  College is and will always be needed.

UnCollege Meets the Classroom.

UnCollege meets the Classroom.    This may be a transition to the new future of education.  Think about it.

The points that Dale J. Stephens, 20, the founder of UnCollege are stimulatingly real.  He focuses on self-reliance and self-discovery, where "young people forge their own paths to fulfillment."  He finds that there is more outside of college that can teach one to become self-reliant, namely internships, or developing a start-up.  The structure that comes from going to college, such as learning to follow directions, deadlines and memorize facts, is not, according to Stephens, going to help that college graduate in the real world.  That kind of structure falls apart when they begin working outside of college.  What's better, he says, is for young people to develop themselves on project-based learning that is self-directed with the guidance of mentors.  I agree with this part of Mr. Stephens one-hundred-thousandth percent, since I have many degrees, and it was not until I worked in the field, applying my knowledge, developing teamwork, relationships, and developing people skills, did I realize  how valuable internships and work were.

When I began to earn my own income, cook my own meals, clean my own laundry and pay my own bills was the beginning of my self-reliance.  However,  I found that I am never completely separate from people, and working together whether at home, work or community - having the ability to communicate well with people is truly what it takes to become an adult.  Developing programs of conflict resolution, financial independence and accountability, and developing project-based learning that develops collaboration and leadership are vital.  This is where the other article is not perfect, but begins to hit the mark.

The classroom is not completely dead.  It has the potential to be renovated into a living classroom.  Rather than sit and be lectured to, the classroom would have project-based learning, where teachers would take students out in the field, on internships and they would need to work as a team.  The only time I had this experience was taking classes in motion pictures, and working at City College's Eco Center with Peggy Langmo.  Motion pictures immediately puts me into groups to accomplish a goal of making a short film.  I not only had to have the skills, but I  had to work as a team.  Never before in my college education, did I learn more about myself and being accountable with people, resources, time and money.  Not to mention how to negotiate the creative vision.

Why go to college at all

    Is college necessary? Is it worth it? I know a lot of people struggling with this argument. For me, I would say yes.There are couple reasons that why college is important.One main reason is job. Most of the employers are looking for people or students with a college degree because employers are looking for someone who have the ability to help their business and make profit. If he/she has completed a degree, it means that he/she has ability to cope with the work environment.Also, college can help students prepare for work and industry related skills. For example, college can train a computer science student in the field of computers, so he/she can cope with using computers after he/she gets the degree.
    But for some people, they don't think so due to some concerns like financial.They think even the higher education system still fails to provide students with good value for the money they spend, and more people think college is too expensive. They would prefer to work and make money.
    Overall, I would say college is a good investment for us personally.A degree is very important because it would offer a lot of skills for us and we will have more chance of getting employed.  

is college really necessary?

The author gives good points as to why college can be very positive but he also goes into detail with all the negatives attributed to attaining a college degree. I for one do not think college is a necessity; I learn hands on and I can honestly say I have used nothing I have learned in college at my current job. I believe high school should be the limit on education and from there a student should be able to get into an internship for the field they would like to work in. Why should I have to learn about molecules if I want to be a social worker? I hate school because I have to stress over assignments I am not interested in, I have to pay for materials that I will have no use for in a few months, I'm stressing over the cost of schooling when I don't need to even be taking a specific class but I have to or I will not earn my degree. It's crazy. Just as Milennials have changed the American Dream, I think we need to reevaluate our education system.